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Meine Anime Geschichte

Daisy

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26 Jan. 2023
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Das ist meine Anime Geschichte. (How I started watching Anime)

Zuerst, Taiwan ist in der Nähe von Japan. Anime ist im Fernsehen und Kinder schauen sehr viele Anime.
In die Schule (middle school) schaue ich viele Animes an. Zumeist besteht es aus Shoujo Anime.
Vielleicht vergesse ich eins oder zwei, weil Zeit schon lange war.

Sie sind... (in no particular order)
(with pictures below) Maid Sama, Kodocha, Kokoro Connect, Ano Hana, Yamada-kun and the Seven Witches, Lovely Complex, Toradora!, Snow White with the Red Hair, Ore Monogatari!! (without pictures below) Ao Haru Ride, The Pet Girl of Sakurasou, Tamako Love Story, Golden Time, Special A, My Little Monster, Ouran High School Host Club, Your Lie in April...


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Hast du diese hier angeschaut?

I watched most of these in middle school. Although some of these withstood the test of time, a couple of them I wouldn't watch again. Still, most of the shows remain strong classic Shoujos and I'd love to talk about them. :)

Vielen Dank für lesen!
Nächstes Mal schreibe ich noch mal über meine Anime Geschichte, aber die ist meine Anime Geschichte jetzt.
Bis dann!

Daisy
 
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Saiko

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Hey Daisy, danke für deine Geschichte! Es ist wirklich interessant zu hören, wie Menschen aus anderen Ländern Anime entdecken. Ich zum Beispiel habe meine Liebe zu Anime durch RTL 2 (einen deutschen TV-Sender) entwickelt, und vermutlich ist das bei vielen hier in Deutschland ähnlich. Das war so ungefähr ab dem Jahr 2000.

Ich habe von den von dir genannten Anime tatsächlich nur AnoHana, Toradora!, Kokoro Connect, Ouran High School Host Club und Your Lie in April gesehen, aber ich bin mir nicht mehr ganz sicher, ob ich noch mehr gesehen habe. 😅

Es würde mich freuen, wenn du uns noch mehr von deiner Geschichte mit Anime erzählen könntest!
 

Daisy

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Ohhh! Das ist sehr interessant!
Hat RTL2 nur Anime oder Fernsehsendung auf Japanisch? Jahr 2000! Wow, ich war ein Jahr alt. XD

Ich habe viele Anime von Kindesbeinen (von Kindergarten bis Grundschule)angeschaut. Zum Beispiel Mirumo de Pon und Shugo Chara! Sie sind slice-of-life oder magische Mädchen. Sie sind sehr süß und komisch.

Ich will ein Post für Kodocha und Ore Monogatari!! schreiben, aber ich empfehle Snow White with the Red Hair und Kimi ni Todoke auch. Die opening von Yamada-kun and the Seven Witches gefällt mir, aber ich habe die Geschichte vergessen.
 

tajiru

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Hallo Daisy aus Taiwan,
sollen wir deutsch oder englisch mit dir schreiben?
I know, this is somehow off topic, but do you identify as citizen of the Republic of China?

Anyway, RTL2 is no anime channel, it's an ordinary German TV channel with series, movies, soaps and news, that once had an afternoon program with many anime shows for many years. They had a somewhat anime block for years that had a huge impact. However they canceled it in favor for soaps. They had shows like Sailor Moon, Pokemon, Digimon, Dragon Ball (Z) (GT), Ranma, Naruto, 'classic anime' and many more. All however dub and sometimes cut/censored (visually and language wise).

slice-of-life oder magische Mädchen
You don't translate "Magical Girl" genre to "magische Mädchen". In German "Magical Girl" genre is also called "Magical Girl".
 
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Daisy

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Hallo tajiru/Sagiri-chan!
Tut mir leid. Mein Deutsch ist nicht so gut. Ich kann nur einfach sprechen.

I identify as Taiwanese. My country is Taiwan. However, I do understand that declaring ourselves as Taiwan on an official level is very dangerous right now. China still thinks of us as part of them, so if we change ROC to Taiwan... it would mean war. I think most Taiwanese people are aware of that, so the actual name change isn't a priority right now. We are independent from China, even though the name/title of our country is a sticky and complicated subject.

(With that being said, after the outcome of The 20th National Congress of CPC, it's pretty clear that a war is going to happen. It's only a matter of time, which is quite scary to think about.)

Actually, if you really want to know more, I saw a documentary about Taiwan by DW. It's mostly pretty accurate.
A year ago, John Oliver's talk show was pretty popular too.
In the DW documentary, they mention the 318 Sunflower Revolution. So here are two more videos that demonstrate how important it was, especially for Taiwanese young people.

I'm both surprised and not surprised that you asked me this. Despite us struggling for a long time diplomatically, Taiwan has been on the forefront of a lot of world news media coverage lately. (Which also confirms that war is near...)
So I'm curious as to what you know about Taiwan?

Anyway, RTL2 is no anime channel, it's an ordinary German TV channel with series, movies, soaps and news, that once had an afternoon program with many anime shows for many years. They had a somewhat anime block for years that had a huge impact. However they canceled it in favor for soaps. They had shows like Sailor Moon, Pokemon, Digimon, Dragon Ball (Z) (GT), Ranma, Naruto, 'classic anime' and many more. All however dub and sometimes cut/censored (visually and language wise).
I see, that's very cool to know! So a lot of Germans' first encounter with anime was through RTL2?

For us, children's cartoon channels would have kid-friendly anime shows as well as other cartoon shows from around the world. Other Japanese channels would be Animax (playing anime shows) and Waku Waku Japan (playing J-Dramas) and also there are other channels that play Japanese variety shows, sports, and news like NHK.

If you watch the documentary from above, Taiwan was colonized by Japan for 50 years (until WWII). Aside from mandatory English learning at school, Japanese is the no.1 foreign language to learn for many Taiwanese people.

You don't translate "Magical Girl" genre to "magische Mädchen". In German "Magical Girl" genre is also called "Magical Girl".
Okay, noted. I just thought you did, cuz it is a literal translation to 魔法少女 (magic girl) in Mandarin.
 
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Daisy

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26 Jan. 2023
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Hallo! Ich bin da.
Ich habe von letztere Post ein paar Anime vergessen und sie sind...

Noragami, Kamisama Kiss, Inu x Boku SS
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Ich finde Noragami sehr gut für mich. Meistens finde ich Streit von Anime zu lange, aber der Streit von Noragmai war perfekt für mich.
Die zwei Openings von Noragami war fantastisch.
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Nach der Schule habe ich nicht so viele Anime gesehen. Ich habe nur manchmal Anime von Netflix angeschaut.
Sie sind... Violet Evergarden, Horimiya, Kaguya-sama: Love Is War, Beastars, The Promised Neverland, My Dress Up Darling, Spy Family...
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Die Ost von Violet Evergarden und The Promised Neverland war super!!! Ich finde die sehr schön. :)

Vielen Dank für lesen!
Nächstes Mal schreibe ich Anime empfehlen.
Bis dann!

Daisy
 

TheDood

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Hi Daisy. Ich bin aus Deutschland. Hier sind Animes nicht so weit verbreitet. Ursprünglich wurden manche Animes geschnitten im Deutschen TV meist auf RTLS2 als Kinderserien ausgestrahlt. Mila, die Kickers, Sailor Moon, dann One Piece, Naruto usw. Auf MTV gab es manchmal Lupin, Gant oder Cowboy Beebop.
Auf VOX gab es vor 25 Jahren ab und zu Anime-Nächte, in denen dann ganze Staffeln einer Serie oder Anime Filme gezeigt wurden. Record of Lodoss War, Submarine No 6, später Gungrave.
Die "Kinderserien" fand ich meist nicht so aufregend, aber alles was auf MTV und Vox lief, habe ich immer gern geschaut. Später dann hatte ich einen Freund, der viel Animes geschaut hat. Mit ihm habe ich manchmal Cannabis geraucht und wir haben Higurashi No naku Koro Ni, Elfenlied, Death Note und manchmal One Piece geschaut. Später dann hatte ich einen Mitbewohner, mit dem ich einiges von Studio Gibli geschaut habe, weil er ein großer Fan davon war.

So bin ich also ins Anime Schauen hineingewachsen.
 

tajiru

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Hallo tajiru/Sagiri-chan!
Tut mir leid. Mein Deutsch ist nicht so gut. Ich kann nur einfach sprechen.
Das habe ich verstanden. Aber bevorzugst du es auf deutsch oder auf englisch mit uns zu kommunizieren?

I identify as Taiwanese. My country is Taiwan. However, I do understand that declaring ourselves as Taiwan on an official level is very dangerous right now. China still thinks of us as part of them, so if we change ROC to Taiwan... it would mean war. I think most Taiwanese people are aware of that, so the actual name change isn't a priority right now. We are independent from China, even though the name/title of our country is a sticky and complicated subject.
Interesting.
But in fear of getting beaten for long off-topic texts, I'll leave it like it is.

I see, that's very cool to know! So a lot of Germans' first encounter with anime was through RTL2?
Mainstream wise, most likely, yes.
Later in the '00s other channels try to catch the train as well and broadcasted anime for a more mature audience. Like it was said before, MTV (Germany) and a German music channel called Viva showed anime like AIKa, Cowboy Bebop, Hellsing, and more.



I would like to know some other 'anime in Taiwan' related things, but I fear this would be to much off-topic too. It's about general anime media, its licences and bootlegs.
 

Daisy

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26 Jan. 2023
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Das habe ich verstanden. Aber bevorzugst du es auf deutsch oder auf englisch mit uns zu kommunizieren?
Both are okay because I use google translate's website translator for the German parts that I don't understand. I don't want to change the way people talk just for me. I guess if there's harder to understand concepts that could go wrong in the translator, then for communication purposes, English is probably better. But again, like I said, I'd be ok with German too, with the help from Google.

But in fear of getting beaten for long off-topic texts, I'll leave it like it is.
Oops. Okay.

Mainstream wise, most likely, yes.
Later in the '00s other channels try to catch the train as well and broadcasted anime for a more mature audience. Like it was said before, MTV (Germany) and a German music channel called Viva showed anime like AIKa, Cowboy Bebop, Hellsing, and more.
Interesting! What about now? Are there still TV channels that broadcast anime?

Actually, all of my TV anime watching was from kindergarten and elementary school. Once I started middle school, I mostly watched anime online (to be free of TV scheduling and Mandarin dubs). Fun fact, I think my english reading speed was trained by watching tons of anime subtitles lol. I would watch with English subs rather than Mandarin ones, because most of the subs in Mandarin were with simplified characters rather than traditional ones that Taiwan/Hong Kong uses. Funny how middle school me couldn't understand "simplified" characters. Now, I do watch shows with simplified subs. However, if I had to read a book in simplified characters, it would annoy me a lot because of the extra mental computing it takes.

I would like to know some other 'anime in Taiwan' related things, but I fear this would be to much off-topic too. It's about general anime media, its licences and bootlegs.
What do you mean? Like anime/manga distributors and publishers in Taiwan?

I see, it's fun how people discovered anime differently.
Oh yes! This is such a staple in Taiwanese childhood as well. My first ever films were My Neighbor Totoro and Kiki's Delivery Service. Also, Spirited Away scared me a lot as a kid hehehe. But I'll stop here cuz there are threads especially made for Gibli films that are not here. :D
 

tajiru

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Wait, shouldn't be simplified be more simple than traditional?
Also, tell me more about the sub/dub thing (Cantonese, Mandarin, Chinese).
Is there a special pattern for when what TV show, movie or disc release has what sub/dub?

What about now? Are there still TV channels that broadcast anime?
Yes, you'll find like maybe about 4 hours+ of anime weekdays and movies or specials at fridaynight / weekends. Mostly stuff like newer seasons of Pokemon, almost uptodate One Piece episodes, Detective Conan, DBZ Kai / Super, Naruto Shippuden, Boruto, Captain Tsubasa 2018, Haikyu, Konosuba and more stuff like them, anime are changing from time to time of course. You'll also find Ghibli movies as well sometimes.

I would like to know some other 'anime in Taiwan' related things, but I fear this would be to much off-topic too. It's about general anime media, its licences and bootlegs.
What do you mean? Like anime/manga distributors and publishers in Taiwan?
I mean, it's no secret that Taiwan for example has 'large' companies that sell bootlegs (unlicenced products) of anime (DVDs, OST, etc.). It's not just Taiwan, but PRC and other South East Asian countries as well. There are of course legit local releases for these regions too. But I wonder what the majority of average anime fans in Taiwan do?
Lets say there is a Studio Ghibli movie box with like 10 movies for lets say 120 dollar (local legit release). But there is also a unlicenced bootleg for like 30-40 dollar. What product would the average Taiwanese (anime fan) choose?
Would Taiwanese import DVD/BD if there is no local release or would they go for bootlegs in this case?
Or is it the bootleg thing more a export thing and not a thing within Taiwan itself?

My first ever films were My Neighbor Totoro and Kiki's Delivery Service. Also, Spirited Away scared me a lot as a kid hehehe.
How did you watch them? TV? English? Sub/dub?
 

Daisy

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Wait, shouldn't be simplified be more simple than traditional?
Also, tell me more about the sub/dub thing (Cantonese, Mandarin, Chinese).
Is there a special pattern for when what TV show, movie or disc release has what sub/dub?
Mandarin in speaking form is mostly the same in Taiwan and China (except for accents and stuff), but the written form is different. In writing, Taiwanese people use traditional characters while Chinese people use simplified characters.

China has lots of illegal websites to watch anime, K-dramas, or other western/American TV shows. And Taiwanese people have benefited because of our understanding of Mandarin. Even though traditional and simplified characters are different, with practice and exposure, usually Taiwanese people have a good grasp on understanding simplified characters.

For my personal experience, when I was little, I really rejected understanding simplified characters because (a) their connection to China and (b) it's just not what I'm used to. (Meaning that there is no reason to understand simplified characters in Taiwan, because everything is written with traditional characters.) And because of my strong English abilities, subtitles in English became an alternative choice to simplified characters. (Whereas for some Taiwanese people, English is too much like school work to feel enjoyable to watch.)
But honestly, simplified subs are kind of inescapable if you want to watch western TV shows and K-dramas, because usually those don't have English subtitles. And even if there are English subtitles, Chinese translators work REALLY fast to get their subtitles out. So if you want to watch the newest shows, simplified subtitles are the way to go.

If it is an official disc release in Taiwan, the subtitles will for sure be in traditional characters. Dubs usually only happen for kid shows (western cartoons and anime alike) because they can't read subtitles yet. (Fun fact: Taiwanese people love subtitles. Even if the show is in Mandarin, it is common for there to be subtitles. And Taiwanese music videos usually would have lyrics at the bottom too.)

I mean, it's no secret that Taiwan for example has 'large' companies that sell bootlegs (unlicenced products) of anime (DVDs, OST, etc.).
I'm not super knowledgable about everything anime related in Taiwan, so I'll just speak of what I know and what my friends have talked about. Like I said before, there are a lot of illegal Chinese websites to watch anime. So if people were trying to save money, I feel like they wouldn't buy anything at all. And for those that really love the show and want to support the artists behind it, they would buy the legit releases.

How did you watch them? TV? English? Sub/dub?
Oh we have a few Studio Gibli DVDs in my home. Mandarin dub when I was little and subtitles when I was older.

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Since we are talking about Taiwan and anime,
I thought I would share a few conventions that are really big throughout the year.

Every summer, there is 漫畫博覽會 Comic Exhibition.
They usually sell manga, light novels and official merchandise.

Every winter, there is 台北國際動漫節 Taipei International Comics & Animation Festival.
They used to be part of "Taipei International Book Exhibition", but there were too many manga/anime fans, so they now have a separate festival for themselves. Since the festival just ended not too long ago, lots of YouTubers have made videos about it.
(This video is in Mandarin but I think the footage will still be interesting, mainly for the festival itself and her haul at the end.)

And for community-based conventions, there is 開拓動漫祭 Fancy Frontier and 台灣同人誌販售會 Comic World Taiwan.
These are for cosplayers and fanfiction/fanartists to sell their works.
 
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tajiru

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Germany also has same festivals. Probably not as big compared to them.
That cosplay video was nice. Looked better than most Western ones. Because in the West you at least find a few cosplayers that actually doesn't look like the character they portrait. But this one looked pretty professional like they were professionals getting paid or this.
Did you visit any of these festivals?
 
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Daisy

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Yes, but only once because I was curious. I went with two of my middle school friends. However, they watch way more anime than me, so they were more excited in every booth while I was only able to recognize a few shows.